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Courage Responds to Registrar's Refusal to Count Every Vote
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(cross-posted on Calitics)

Dean Logan, the acting Registrar of Voters in Los Angeles issued a detailed report (pdf) yesterday evening, following a 1% sampling of the Decline-to-State vote. Unfortunately, he is still refusing to count every possible ballot. Following his report, the number of uncounted ballots is estimated at 49,500, since the sampling showed that a significant portion intended to just vote non-partisan. We do not know the hard number, since he has only done a sampling, not pulled and examined all of the ballots. AP

Registrar Dean Logan said those improperly filled out ballots are impossible to count by hand because of the county's complicated voting system, which requires crossover voters to fill in two "bubbles": one to choose a political party and one to indicate their presidential choice.

"There's no way in looking at the ballot to discern voters' intent," Logan said after releasing preliminary findings about the flawed voting system.


Wrong. Voter intent, as the Courage Campaign has argued all along is clear. These voters requested a Democratic ballot, voted for a Democrat and just because they missed an extra bubble does not mean that you can't determine voter intent.

28,000 people have signed our petition to the Registrar demanding he count every possible vote. Have you signed yet?

Check the flip for more, including excerpts from a letter our lawyers sent back to Logan that specifically discuss voter intent and his obligations under the state Constitution to count every vote.

The full letter from Steven Reyes, a lawyer for the Courage Campaign is available for download in pdf. Here are the main sections:

First, the "universe of ballots impacted by the cross-over issue" while smaller than some media reports, is nonetheless staggering: 49,500 voters will, unless additional action is immediately taken, have their votes discarded. Twenty-six percent of all DTS voters in Los Angeles County are estimated to have cast ballots that will not count. In some districts, that rate climbs to 41% (in the 46th Congressional District); 45% (in the 27th Congressional District); and 56% (in the 37th Congressional District). We remind the Board that requiring DTS voters to take additional steps to cast their ballots - such as filling in a party selection bubble -- is neither required, nor permitted, by law.

Second, we strongly disagree that the "limitations of our voting system and the ballot design impede an ability to determine voter intent on those ballots that were impacted . . . ." The report states that "there is no way to definitively rule out the distinct possibility that a non-partisan voter used, for example, a Republican Party or minor party vote recorder and marked their ballot for one of those party candidates."

If this were true, all ballots cast at the polls would be suspect unless poll workers personally escorted each voter to the correct voting booth and ensured that a correct ballot was cast. Thus, for example, if a registered Green Party voter inadvertently cast a ballot in the Republican Party voting booth, the Inka-Vote system would record that voter's ballot for the corresponding Green Party candidate. The mere possibility that such a voter might cast a Republican ballot should not cause those ballots to be thrown out. Moreover, we find the likelihood of this "distinct possibility" extremely remote. Ultimately, when a DTS voter cast his or her ballot for a candidate in positions 11-15 - ballot positions for which DTS voters were only authorized to vote for Democratic candidates - it is contrary to the State Constitution and to the state Elections Code to disregard that vote.

In response to the Florida electoral fiasco in 2000, California voters overwhelmingly passed Proposition 43 on March 5, 2002. Proposition 43 inserted one simple line into Article II of the California Constitution: A voter who casts a vote in an election in accordance with the laws of this State shall have that vote counted. (Emphasis added.) Further, state law clearly states that when reviewing votes and voting systems, Election Code requirements "shall be liberally construed so that the real will of the electors will not be defeated by any informality or failure to comply with all of the provisions of the law." (See Cal. Elec. Code Sec. 19001.)


Logan is coming up with excuses not to count all possible votes. Our lawyers are arguing that these voters cast legal votes, since the additional bubble is not required to be filled out under the law. Our state constitution requires that every vote be counted. Therefore Logan should count every vote.

Here are the actions that the Courage Campaign has demanded be taken in response to the report.

  1. The Registrar must take all necessary steps to identify the precise number of DTS voters that were adversely affected by the ballot design flaw and identify the candidates for whom these DTS voters cast a ballot or, alternatively, the range of candidates for whom these voters may have cast a ballot.


  2. The Registrar must ascertain voter intent, in a manner consistent with the Elections Code and the State Constitution.


  3. The Registrar must count the votes of all DTS voters who cast a ballot for a presidential candidate, but did not mark the party selection, where voter intent is clear.


  4. The Registrar must, as identified in his preliminary report, take all necessary steps to ensure that the DTS ballot design flaw is remedied for the June 3, 2008 State Primary Election.


The good news is that Logan is indicating that he will make sure that this will not be a problem when voters head back to the polls in June. We will make sure he keeps his word. In the meantime the Courage Campaign will continue to put pressure on the Registrar to count every vote.

Reader Comments
  
thank you
By Jason W. Feb 12th 2008 at 12:43 pm PST
DTS voters must be counted. The votes that agree and the votes that disgaree with anyone's opinion must still be counted. It is amazing that our state officials can still provide lousy ballot designs that are visually cluttered and pointlessly obfuscated.

California is a world leader in visual imagery - film and otherwise. For the love of Pete - design a ballot that is the most idiot-proof possible. AND COUNT EVERY VOTE THAT DEMOSTRATES VOTER INTENT. BREAK THIS CONFIDENCE OF TRUST WITH US, AND SUFFER THE CONSEQUENCES.
Re: thank you
By Christina Walsh Feb 15th 2008 at 10:19 am PST
Every vote must be counted! DTS voters must be included.
  
Robert Earle
By "clear" voter intent for positions 8,9,10 Feb 12th 2008 at 1:03 pm PST
From your letter:
If [the "possibility that a non-partisan voter used, for example, a Republican Party or minor party vote recorder and marked their ballot for one of those party candidates"] were true, all ballots cast at the polls would be suspect unless poll workers personally escorted each voter to the correct voting booth and ensured that a correct ballot was cast.

While the poll workers at the precinct where I worked did not *literally* escort voters, we did as a group keep a watchful eye on each voter to ensure that they found their way to the correct voting booth.

As I said last night in response to Rick Jacobs,

Link

there is an arguement to be made regarding those non-partisan ballots with marks in the 11 through 15 positions, as the letter states (although you face an uphill battle in getting the parties to agree to count them). But that says nothing regarding ballots with marks in the 8 through 10 positions. Yet you then insist that all ballots must be counted. No one has yet explained to me how you intend to discern voter intent on those ballots marked in the 8 through 10 positions.

"Voter intent, as the Courage Campaign has argued all along is clear."

Once again: explain to me how "voter intent... is clear" on those ballots with marks in the 8 through 10 positions, and I will happily sign your petition.
Re: Robert Earle
By jon Feb 12th 2008 at 11:45 pm PST
Robert, slots 8-10 are Mike Gravel, John Edwards, and Chris Dodds.

Are you saying with a straight face the potential inability to accurately judge the intent of those votes means that the votes that unambiguously selected Hillary Clinton or Barack Obama should not be counted?

jon
Re: Robert Earle
By Robert Earle Feb 13th 2008 at 2:32 am PST
The positions of the candidates' names on the ballot rotate from polling location to polling location, by state law.

Meaning that just because 8 through 10 were Gravel, Edwards and Dodd on your ballot does not mean they were Gravel Edwards and Dodd on everyones' ballot. In particular, where I voted in Torrance, 8 was Joe Biden, 9 was Obama, and 10 was Bill Richardson.

I am all in favor of counting any and all votes that "unambiguously selected" whatever candidate. But no one, including Rick Jacobs and Julia Rosen, has as yet explained to me how the ballots in the example I gave previously can be seen as unambiguous.
Re: Robert Earle
By jon Feb 13th 2008 at 8:52 am PST
ok, didn't realize about the rotation. thanks for clarifying, and apologies for the late-night incredulity.

so specifically your objection to the petition is that it's asking to "count every vote" as opposed to "count every possible vote"?
Re: Robert Earle
By What I object to Feb 13th 2008 at 9:51 am PST
What do I object to?

What I object to is that CourageCampaign is asking the LA County Registrar and the Secretary of State to undertake a lengthy and expensive process that would most likely end up in court, and which - unless there is some fundamental aspect of which I don't understand (and I don't think there is) - has virtually zero chance of succeeding (and which, the people from the Democratic party as well as the Registrar say, would make no difference in the overall outcome anyway).

There IS NO WAY to discern the voter intent from a mis-marked non-partisan ballot with a mark in the 8 to 10 range but without a mark in bubble 5 or 6 as to whether is was intended to be a Dem vote or an AI vote. None.

Yes, there is a very good chance that voter intent can be inferred for ballots that are marked in the range 11 through 15 (and without marks in 5 or 6). But whether those get counted is not up to you or me or the people at CourageCampaign. And if the LA Country Registrar or the Secretary of State were to decide to try to have them counted, there is a very good chance that that would end up in Federal Court, another expensive and time-consuming process.

Now, I am not a lawyer. But there is a very good chance that the unequal handling of the "11 through 15" ballots as opposed to the "8 through 10" ballots will run afoul of the precedents set in 'Bush v Gore' (whatever one might think of the result of that case). One set of mis-marked ballots in goona be counted, and another set won't be?!? Good luck with that in Federal Court.

But what I REALLY object to is that the CourageCampaign people know all of this!

Their "intent of the voter is clear" and 'Logan is refusing to count valid ballots' statements are either utterly naive or utterly disingenuous. Yet they continue to rabble-rouse with their false sanctimony, and to what end? Generate internet traffic? Get their name on the radio or in the newspaper?

It is fine for them to call attention to the "double bubble" problem such that it either get fixed in time for the June congressional primary, or to raise awareness such that fewer ballots are lost during the June primary. But enough with the simplistic and disingenuous "intent is clear" and "count the votes" nonsense. The intent is not clear. And, though Mr. Logan and Ms. Bowen would like nothing more than to count the votes, they are not going to be counted.
Re: Robert Earle
By jon Feb 14th 2008 at 8:50 am PST
Robert,

It seems to me that you're picking at nits. Most of the people in the discussion on Brad Friedman's blog seem to agree that intent can be determined very accurately in almost all cases. Link

In any case, the important thing is to count all of the votes where the intent can be determined. Courage Campaign has taken the lead on a petition to request that. Good for them.

How are *you* helping?

jon
Re: Robert Earle
By Robert Earle Feb 14th 2008 at 2:23 pm PST
What Brad is talking about at the link is the same thing Rick Jacobs said in response to one of my comments the other night; there are notations in the Roster of Voters that can be used to infer voter intent.

When a voter shows up at the polls, the first thing he/she is asked to do is sign a book called the Roster of Voters. In the Roster, there is an indication of how each voter is registered. This election (for the first time), poll workers were asked to make a notation in the Roster when a non-partisan voter indicated that he/she wanted to 'cross-over' to the Dem or AI primary.

Rick and Brad's theory is that one could check the Roster, and if there are no notations of a non-partisan crossing over to the AI primary, then all the mis-marked "double bubble" ballots are Dem ballots, the voter intent can then be inferred, and the votes counted.

And they are correct...if there are zero notations of an AI cross-over voter, and if the notations were kept - if not PERFECTLY - to a high degree (98%? 99%?) of accuracy.

So their theory depends on those poll workers who failed to give instructions on the "double bubble" ballots - some of whom, in these comments, have indicated they were themselves unaware there were even instructions to give! - having made the notations in the Roster almost perfectly. It is unlikely in the extreme that the notations were so kept.

But it's an easy thing to check. In Rick and Brad's theory, there should be just about exactly the same number of notations in the Roster as there are NP ballot with markings in the 'presidential' range of bubbles 8 through 15 (with bubble 5 or 6, or neither marked). When the LA Country Registrar did his 1% audit, he counted how many NP ballots were marked in that range. (Appendix C of his report.) So simply get ahold of the Rosters for those precincts, and count the number of cross-over notations in them.

I expect we will find that there will be some precincts where those notations were kept perfectly, some where they were kept haphazardly, and some where the notations weren't kept at all. If so, their theory fails.

But I could be wrong. So, by all means, check the Rosters.

It should be noted that in Appendix C , there are valid AI cross-over ballots in 25 of the 48 precincts that made up the audit. So their supposition that (in Brad's words) "Most polling places had no NP voters who chose to 'cross-over' and vote AI..." is already proving to be incorrect.

Lastly, even if there are precincts where the notations in the Roster were kept perfectly, and there were no AI cross-overs indicated, you still run into trouble trying to have those votes counted. The underlying precedent of 'Bush v Gore' and another Supreme Court case called 'Reynolds' is that you can't treat ballots, or precincts, differently or unequally. So even if their theory holds up for half the precincts, you run into trouble applying their ad-hoc procedure to only those precincts and those ballots.

"How are *you* helping?"

You mean "...besides the 16 hour day you put in working at the polls"?
  

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