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The Los Angeles County Registrar of Voters decided in they could save a few bucks by creating a complicated ballot design for the presidential primary. In 2008, that decision has now lead to the disenfranchisement of countless voters. What we don't know is the scope of the problem.

Here is the deal:

Almost 20% of California voters are registered as "Decline-to-State" (DTS). About 776,000 of these DTS voters live in Los Angeles County. To vote for President, like other DTS voters across the state, LA County DTS voters had to ask for a "Democratic Party ballot" on Tuesday (see funny, now prophetic video here).

However, in Los Angeles County -- and only Los Angeles County -- these DTS voters were given a special "Democratic Party" ballot that required voters not only to fill out a bubble for their favorite Democratic Party presidential candidate, but ALSO to fill in a bubble at the top that they wanted to vote "Democratic" -- a redundant requirement. According to the Los Angeles County ROV, if the DTS voter didn't fill in the redundant "Democratic" bubble, their vote would not be counted.

This is what we are calling "double bubble trouble".

The Courage Campaign, thanks to our lawyer Steven Reyes' eagle eyes, discovered that a failure to mark the "Democratic" bubble resulted in the vote not being counted. Regardless of the clear-cut intentions of voters, the Los Angeles County Registrar of Voters (ROV) is refusing to do what is necessary to count these ballots.

Now, under a national spotlight, the ROV must do the right thing and count these votes correctly. Voter intent is clear. Missing the top bubble (and it's easy to miss) after you already asked specifically for a "Democratic" ballot -- and voted for a Democratic candidate -- should not mean that your vote goes uncounted.

This is not about the candidates. This is about making sure every vote is counted.

Help us fight to make sure every vote is counted and that this never happens again.

Reader Comments
  
OK, so why isn't this in the news?
By Nicholas Feb 6th 2008 at 9:20 am PST
I started reading about this problem on the Daily Kos yesterday, and the Courage Campaign lawyer was quoted, and the reaction from the Obama spokesperson was quoted ("very concerned"). I haven't found any mention of it in mainstream media yet.

Three quarters of a million disenfranchised voters is no joke, especially in a delegate-rich state like California. What is the Courage Campaign going to do about this? Will you file a lawsuit to have the ballots recounted?
  
It's worse than that
By Brian Feb 6th 2008 at 9:23 am PST
It's not *just* the double bubble trouble.

Many of us were given non-partisan ballots, even when we were asked if we wanted to vote in the Democratic primary and said "yes", and told this was the correct ballot.

And I know some people who were refused Democratic ballots entirely when they asked for one.

There was a *massive* failure in the voting system here, which is ridiculous for a country like the US.
Re: It's worse than that
By Art McBreen Feb 6th 2008 at 7:51 pm PST
And it's even worse than that: I am a non-partisan voter, and at my polling place in Montrose was asked whether I wanted a Republican or a Democratic ballot. I replied that I wasn't allowed to have a Republican ballot. The woman said yes, I was. I told her no, I wasn't. She said, "That's been changed." No, I assured her, it hasn't. But she was adamant that I could vote in whichever primary I wanted. Finally I accepted my Democratic ballot (which I later learned was supposed to be non-partisan) and afterward complained to her supervisors, both of whom were meandering, obtuse, and clueless. When I finally asked for a phone number to call so I could report what was going on I was given a Provisional Voter Receipt and told that was the only # they had. What I want to know is how many non-partisans voted Republican because the pollworker insisted they could? Incredible incompetence.
  
I was refused a Democratic Ballot
By Carmen D. Feb 6th 2008 at 9:41 am PST
I was refused a democratic ballot even though I asked for one. Then I was told all I had to do was pick the candidate of my choice. I have blogged about my terrible experience. www.allaboutrace.com

What can I do to make sure all votes are counted?
  
Why do I feel like I'm living in Flordia?
By Kirk Feb 6th 2008 at 9:45 am PST
Like the commenter above, I was given a non-partisan ballot even though I expressed my wish to vote for a Democratic candidate. The poll workers insisted that was the correct ballot.

I guess it doesn't matter since I didn't mark the double bubble. I stupidly thought that I only had to vote once for the candidate of my choice. It never occurred to me that I would have to declare my intention to vote for my candidate in addition to actually voting for my candidate.
Re: Why do I feel like I'm living in Flordia?
By karen Feb 6th 2008 at 9:50 pm PST
I had the same thing happen. I simply didn't notice the notation above "President of the United States" demarcation point. I had heard about troubles with DTS balloting on the radio on the way over but didn't get the whole story so I specifically asked the pollworker if there was anything special I needed to know, and she gave me no instruction. Apparently they were supposed to tell us specifically that we had to mark that bubble in order for our vote to be counted.
The machine didn't spit out my ballot, so I assumed I had done everything properly.

The requirement to check this bubble serves no purpose whatsoever. THEY SHOULD COUNT ALL THE DTS VOTES REGARDLESS OF WHETHER OR NOT THIS BUBBLE IS CHECKED and honor the spirit of the law.
  
Who to contact?
By LA County Voter Feb 6th 2008 at 9:52 am PST
Listening to Larry Mantle's program on KPCC right now somebody from the Courage Campaign stated Non Partisan Voters who got caught by the Double Bubble and still have their ballot stub should contact Courage Campaign.

Well here I am but I can't find any info on how to proceed.
Re: Who to contact?
By lara elin Feb 6th 2008 at 10:03 am PST
same here- who do i email at courage campaign to announce that i have my ballot stubs for our household...?
Re: Who to contact?
By rwillburns@gmail.com Feb 6th 2008 at 12:55 pm PST
Me too. What am I supposed to do?
Re: Who to contact?
By Julia Rosen, Online Political Director Feb 6th 2008 at 3:16 pm PST
Hi Guys,

Sorry for the delay. We are working right now on getting a button up on the front page to make this clear.

If you have a ballot stub and/or were a DTS voter in LA County and think you may have been disenfranchised please fill out this form.

Link

Thanks! And stay tuned.

Julia
Online Political Director
Re: Who to contact?
By Julia Rosen, Online Political Director Feb 6th 2008 at 3:49 pm PST
Try this link instead.

Link

Sorry about that.
Re: Who to contact?
By LA County Voter Feb 6th 2008 at 1:13 pm PST
I went back and checked Larry Mantle's Program this morning and it was Rick Jacobs, rjacobs@couragecampaign.org , Who asked for this information.

Since he heads this organization perhaps he will follow through shortly.
  
Not sure if my vote will count
By Hannah Feb 6th 2008 at 9:55 am PST
I live in LA and am a registered Democrate but at my polling place they had me listed as a Non-Partisan and would only give me that ballot, not the democratic one. So now I don't know if my vote will count. No one said anything about checking a box to say democrate. This isn't right! What's is the point of me going and voting if my vote isn't going to count?!?!?!
  
System Failure
By Kacey Koeberer Feb 6th 2008 at 10:01 am PST
I can't begin to describe my frustration with LA County. Here's my experience at the polls yesterday.

Mistake #1) Even though I had changed my party affiliation to Democrat well before the January 22nd deadline my precinct had me on the roster as a "Decline-To-State" voter.

Mistake #2) When I asked for a Democratic Ballot I was given a Non-Partisan Ballot.

Mistake #3) NO ONE MENTIONED MARKING THE DEMOCRATIC BUBBLE.

Mistake #4) I was instructed to vote in the "Independent Party Booth" as opposed to the "Democratic Booth".

Mistake #5) When I went back to complain I was told by a poll worker that "it was only one vote".

I just can't fathom how all these failures happen in the country's most innovative state.

I want to know what I can do to make sure ALL of LA County's votes are counted. Please advise.
  
Wrong ballot
By Dahlia Feb 6th 2008 at 10:06 am PST
I also stated that I wanted to vote in the Democratic primary and was handed a Non-partisan ballot and told all I needed to do was vote at a booth marked "Democratic". Nothing was said about filling in extra bubbles.
  
Ballot stub
By Colin Feb 6th 2008 at 10:19 am PST
In all fairness, the correct procedure is described in the LA voter guide we all received. However, at the polls the workers were aware that I could vote Democrat, but they gave me a non-partisan ballot and gave me no special instruction about the "double bubble". I doubt they knew themselves.

Anyway, echoing others in the comments, when are you going to start collecting our ballot numbers?
  
Well!....What now!?
By User from South Pasadena, CA Feb 6th 2008 at 10:26 am PST
Why tell voters with a "double bubble" problem to
go to your website if you have no plan what to do
about it. I need to know who to contact or where
to go with my ballot receipt so that I can get
my vote counted.
  
Take Action!
By User from Los Angeles, CA Feb 6th 2008 at 10:35 am PST
I am registered in the Green Party and was therefore given a provisional ballot yesterday in the California primary. I neglected to fill in the first bubble (the one that simply said "Democrat")--my reasoning being because I choose not to affiliate myself with that party. I found out this morning that this rendered my ballot null and void.

The only suggestion I have to all other DTS, Green and Independent voters who were disenfranchised in California yesterday is to go to Link and take action! Call 1-866-OUR-VOTE and file a complaint! Do not go gentle into that good night!
  
Polling Workers
By Screwed in Van Nuys Feb 6th 2008 at 10:40 am PST
I went to the polling place in Van Nuys with my wife who is a Reg'd Independent and she was

given the independent ballot and told that she needed to vote in the independent polling booth but if she wanted to vote in the democratic primary she needed to mark the bubble signifying dem and then flip to the ballot initiatives...

Which means because of one individual giving bad information she and untold others ballot's and votes DO NOT COUNT and didn't even get to vote for a candidate!

I'm kicking myself because I had been listening to KPCC all day and heard the procedure but didn't feel as if I could say anything.
  
We need to get the word out broadly about this
By Jon Feb 6th 2008 at 10:48 am PST
I started up a couple of threads in some large Facebook groups "Massive Voter Disenfranchisement in California?". A couple of people very quickly replied saying that they had been denied Democratic ballots and given provisional ballots instead.

Is somebody working to get this on Slashdot?
  
Polling Workers
By Screwed in Van Nuys Feb 6th 2008 at 11:01 am PST
I went to the polling place in Van Nuys with my wife who is a Reg'd Independent and she was

...given the independent ballot and told that she needed to vote in the independent polling booth but if she wanted to vote in the democratic primary she needed to mark the bubble signifying dem and then flip to the ballot initiatives since the Independent polling booth and ballot didn't have the Democratic Candidates on it...

Which means because of one individual giving bad information she and untold others ballot's and votes DO NOT COUNT and didn't even get to vote for a candidate!

I'm kicking myself because I had been listening to KPCC's great coverage all day and heard the procedure but didn't feel as if I could say anything.
  
Vote Not Counted
By DA Feb 6th 2008 at 11:13 am PST
I didn't fill in the bubble. My vote did not count. I have a receipt.
  
Count me in as uncounted.
By Christopher Glass Feb 6th 2008 at 11:14 am PST
My vote for Obama didn't count I guess. I really hope you guys file a lawsuit to have them properly counted. My intent should be very clear on my ballot. I find it outrageous that undelcared voters had to do this extra step that other voters did not have to do.. and which was never mentioned in the mailed out sample ballot. I am so angry.
  
me too
By rhonda Feb 6th 2008 at 11:18 am PST
my vote did not count either - have my receipt - where to go now??
  
Dropped voters
By DA Feb 6th 2008 at 11:24 am PST
You guys also need to check into people being dropped off of voter rolls, as I know seven people in Los Angeles who went to vote, only to discover they were no longer registered to vote. Every one of these people voted and were registered in the previous election.

LA County has a serious problem today,
  
I need my vote to count
By Scott Feb 6th 2008 at 11:46 am PST
This is a huge problem, and needs to be solved, even if in the courts. Please help!
  
Add me to the list!
By Alan Feb 6th 2008 at 1:16 pm PST
Another vote for Oboma not counted. I went back and checked my sample ballot. This was covered in the "how to vote" section. I've been voting for over 40 years so I never read that part. I will in the future.
  
Please give readers some course of action
By Riley Feb 6th 2008 at 2:04 pm PST
This article eloquently states the problem but is a complete dead-end for a disenfranchised voter trying to do something about the problem. Please provide some course of action -- someone to call/write/etc. Something! Please!
Re: Please give readers some course of action
By Riley Feb 6th 2008 at 2:27 pm PST
Based on some internet searches, here are some things disenfranchised voters can do:

* Contact Rick Jacobs at the Courage Camapaign -- rjacobs (at) couragecampaign.org.

* L.A. City Attorney Rocky Delgadillo is asking for an investigation ( Link ). Write to him at Rocky.Delgadillo (at) lacity.org or call (213) 978-8100.

* There's a national non-partisan group called the Election Protection Coalition: Please call their hotline at 1-866-OUR-VOTE and report your experience.

Anybody with better information, please chip in. And pass the word!
Re: Please give readers some course of action
By Linda Feb 7th 2008 at 10:40 am PST
After calling (213) 978-8100, as mentioned/suggested here by Riley, I spoke to Frank Mateljan who suggested sending him an e-mail. He is collecting voter data to use in the investigation and push to have all votes counted.
Send the e-mail to:
Frank.Mateljan@lacity.org

Include the following info:
registered as_______ (non-partisan or indep.)
your name
your precinct #
your ballot #
your e-mail address.
  
It worked!
By Karen R Feb 6th 2008 at 4:59 pm PST
I called the LA County Registrar's office today. They are investigating the ballots to see if there should be a hand count!

Link
  
ALL VOTES MUST COUNT
By David Friedman and Joan Schumacher Feb 6th 2008 at 4:59 pm PST
The requirement for a "DTS" voter to bubble in #6 seems to me to simply be un-constitutional.

It is a superfluous and arbitrary add-on to the vote. It cannot be deemed to be *co-required as a pre-requisite* to the "inalienable" right to vote.
The infamous "Bubble #6" is extraneous, poorly conceived and pathetically communicated, visually or procedurally.

I believe ALL VOTES MUST COUNT, with or without a #6 inked Bubble.
  
Confusing Sample Ballot
By Glevin Feb 6th 2008 at 5:50 pm PST
I'm pissed!!! Why does there always seem that there is some reason or another not to count votes!!!

After by chance over-hearing this on the news I had to hunt to find this site.
Now after reading the above post and rereading the sample ballot again, I realize that the Special Instruction For Nonpartisan Voters does state about the above mentioned bubble. But after and with no separation from the Voting by Mail instruction paragraph. It leads you to believe that it is part of the Voting by Mail instructions. I'm writing to the La County ROV, both Democrats and whoever else I can.
Re: Confusing Sample Ballot
By Glevin Feb 6th 2008 at 6:05 pm PST
Ugghh,
Now I listen to my telephone messages from yesterday and there is a message from the Obama campaign with detailed instructions to fill in the top bubble.
  
two problems (at least)
By CassandraComplex Feb 7th 2008 at 9:54 am PST
DA is right. The dropped voters need to be investigated.

And yes, the ballot/NP/DTS thing needs to be solved, but the dropped voters is worse.

I worked the polls and we had MANY MANY MANY people show up with their official sample ballot directing them to our poll, however, they weren't on our logs. This sounds like caging to me. and the whole double bubble thing is serving as a smokescreen to cover it up.
  

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