Obama vs. Clinton: Did you hear the bad news?
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Tags: Dean Logan, double bubble trouble, DTS, Election 2008, Election Integrity, Los Angeles
Tags: Dean Logan, double bubble trouble, DTS, Election 2008, Election Integrity, Los Angeles

The story is painfully unsurprising. More than 94,000 primary votes in Los Angeles County are in danger of not being counted because of a design flaw in the ballot.
The Courage Campaign is doing some of the legwork to insist that the votes be counted, but we're powered by you. Your signatures on our petition and your tales from the polls. I keep saying it, but the overwhelming response is both humbling and outrageous (as in, how can so many people have to do this in a functioning democracy?), but as Rick Jacobs discusses on the flip, adding your voice today can only make us stronger as we push forward.
From Rick:
We warned Los Angeles County about the impending trouble with the "double bubble." Now, the Sacramento Bee editorial board is calling it "a major voting disaster." And there is speculation that the outcome could change how many delegates Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama receive in California.
94,500. That's roughly how many people in Los Angeles County voted for Obama and Clinton on Super Tuesday, only to see their votes rejected by the now infamous -- and fatally flawed -- "double bubble" ballot.
Here's the bad news: Despite a record-breaking turnout of 189,000 voters registered as "Decline-to-State" (DTS), Dean Logan, L.A.'s Registrar of Voters, is still refusing to physically hand-count these ballots, effectively disenfranchising 94,500 -- at least HALF -- of DTS voters because they didn't fill in an extra, redundant bubble before voting for President.
Time is running out to change Dean Logan's mind. Nearly 20,000 people have signed our "Count Every Vote" petition. Have you? Please sign it now and forward it to your friends immediately, so we can deliver as many signatures as possible directly to Dean Logan:
http://www.couragecampaign.org/CountEveryVote
Calling it "a major voting disaster" and a "raw deal" for Decline-to-State voters, the Sacramento Bee's editorial board puts "94,500" in perspective:
"The scale of disenfranchisement is huge - 94,500 of 189,000 decline-to-state votes. That's half of the nonpartisan ballots. By comparison, in the infamous Florida "butterfly ballot" debacle in the 2000 presidential election, 19,120 Palm Beach County ballots went uncounted because of the bad ballot design."
That's right. Five times as many voters are now being disenfranchised than in Palm Beach County's "hanging chad" catastrophe of 2000. The only difference is that Dean Logan, the L.A. County registrar, knew this would happen ahead of time -- because a lawyer for the Courage Campaign warned him in a detailed letter prior to the primary.
18,007 (and growing). That's the astounding number of people who have signed the "Count Every Vote" petition so far, building a movement for election integrity that could become our largest signature-gathering campaign ever. Sign your name, tell your friends, and demand that Dean Logan count every vote today:
http://www.couragecampaign.org/CountEveryVote
Excited by the race between Hillary Clinton and Barack Obama, an unprecedented number of Decline-to-State voters rushed to the polls last Tuesday to vote in the Democratic Party primary. But at least HALF of these voters in Los Angeles County -- 20% of the electorate in the largest election jurisdiction in America -- are now finding out that their vote was rejected because they "failed" to fill out a meaningless bubble on a confusing ballot.
We don't know if -- as the Los Angeles Daily News speculated -- the "double bubble" debacle "could affect the number of delegates each candidate gets -- potentially determining the Democratic nominee for president." We do know that, no matter the speculation, we can't take one vote for granted:
Sign the petition. Spread the word. Count every vote:
http://www.couragecampaign.org/CountEveryVote
The stakes are high. And, with a deadline looming to certify the vote, time is short.
Your signature will help make sure the "double bubble" disaster does not disenfranchise independent voters inspired by Barack Obama and Hillary Clinton. Please sign today so that we can bring the largest number of signatures possible directly to Dean Logan and remind him that the integrity of our elections -- and the faith of people in the process -- depends on counting every vote.
Thank you for taking a minute of your time to defend our democracy today.
Rick Jacobs
Chair
P.S. On Thursday, we told you about Julian H., a young man who told us his first vote "amounted to nothing" because he didn't fill in an irrelevant bubble. Julian wasn't alone in his disgust and disappointment. Hundreds of frustrated voters have contacted the Courage Campaign. Charles C., another first-time primary voter, just wrote the following to us about his Election Day experience:
"When I walked into the polling place, I was asked what party I was with. I told them I was an Independent. They asked me which party I was going to vote for, and I stated Democratic. They handed me a ballot and pointed me to a particular booth. Because this is the first time I have voted in a primary, I was really excited. When I saw my candidates name, I marked it and then moved on to the remainder of the ballot. I didn't know I had to mark Democratic again. I felt proud to cast my vote, but now feel like a fool knowing my vote will not be counted."
If you know of any "Decline-to-State" voters in Los Angeles like Charles or Julian, please send them to a special web page we have set up specifically for disenfranchised DTS voters:
http://www.couragecampaign.org/LosAngelesVotes
Is PFAW, NAACP, ACLU, Common Cause involved?
Because my guess is Mr. Logan would love to count them....if the clear intent of the voter could be discerned. But for a great number of these ballots, that is not going to be possible.
So, some support for your assertion, please.
Its not as if the voter had choices between candidates of different parties.
Logan should count these ballots, not now, but right now!
What turns that non-partisan ballot into a vote for a Democrat (or a vote for an American Independent candidate) is the marking of the now infamous "bubble #6" (or bubble #5 in the AI case).
It is the marking of bubble #6 (or #5), or more accurately the failure to mark #6 or #5 that is the source of the problem. And it is that failure that will make determining the intent of the voter difficult if not impossible to discern. I ran through some of the details in the comments at another of the posts here.
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They are just sampling. We are requesting a full count.
Josh Richman over at his CCTimes blog :
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That is exactly the point we are making. They should count all of the votes that are possible to count, no matter the impact on the outcome.
What Mr. Logan has said, and what is reflected in the AP article, is that during the standard sample-audit, if they determine that the NP ballots in question might affect the delegate counts, they'll "exhaust every available option under state law to count cross-over votes on non-partisan ballots where the intent of the voter can be clearly and definitively determined."
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That may not be the answer you're looking for, and you may not like that answer, but it is a far, far cry from "refusing" to count the ballot. It is, in fact, a conditional acceptance of a review of the ballots.
And the point we are making is that Logan is resisting counting all of the ballots, unless the sampling shows it could flip delegate counts. We want all possible ballots to be counted, regardless of what would happen with regards to the delegates. It is as Richman writes about the principle of the thing.
My objection to the wording in your original post stands.
Instead, Secretary of State Debra Bowen says that since they can't determine if an indvidual ballot was for the Democratic Party candidates or American Independent Party candidate, all these ballots should be thrown out.
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Logically we know that most of these ballots were Democratic, because the number of American Independent Party voters is very small," Secretary of State Debra Bowen told the Times. "But in a democracy we don't guess what the voter's intent was."
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No, Debra Bowen. You can allocate the votes based on percentage of people in LA who belong to each party.
If you go to this web site...
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and put in a valid LA County address, you will be able to see sample ballots for each of the parties, as well as a booklet describing for non-partisans how to cast their ballot in the Democratic or American Independent primaries.
Each voter registered as non-partisan was to have received one of these booklets in the mail prior to the election. In addition, extra copies of the booklets were available on the tables at the polling places (although those tend to 'walk away' when poll workers give them to voters as reference, such that if you vote late in the day, the one booklet you're looking for might no longer be there.)
It is to a great extent the responsibily of the County Registrar's Office (the oft mentioned Dean Logan), rather than the Sec of State, to publish the needed info.
(Julia, maybe you guys could post sample ballots for the non-LA County residents to be able to look at, so they can better understand all the "Bubble #6, Bubble #5, Bubble #9 stuff?)
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